Trump Can Save America or Wage Another War,
But He Can’t Do Both. Here’s Why
We’ve got a choice between saving the United States or waging yet another pointless foreign war. We can’t do both. Curt Mills reflects on neocon attempts to subvert the Trump agenda. Read the Transcript
Tucker Carlson Questions the Path to War
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(January 24, 2025) — Carlson is wrong about many things, but recently he’s become quite antiwar. Tucker says: “There is no more repulsive group in American life than the people who continue to push death and bankruptcy on the United States.” [via endless war]
Curt Mills tells Tucker: “There is a hard drive towards [pushing the United States into a war with Iran]. And picking off Pentagon deputies and allowing leaders like Trump and Vance to be surrounded by hawks and [silencing] dissenting voices whatsoever is absolutely essential towards any road to war.”
Sections of the 84-minute interview:
- Pete Hegseth’s Confirmation
2. The Neocons’ Love for Death, War, and Bankruptcy
3. Why Israelis Want Benjamin Netanyahu to Resign
4. Everything You’ve Been Told About Iran Is a Lie
5. What Are the Chances the US Invades Iran?
6. Why Is [journalist] Bari Weiss Protecting Mike Pompeo?
Near the end, Carlson summarizes what may be the biggest unspoken story in D.C.: “Donald Trump may have actually broken the grip of the neocons on Washington.” But there is pushback from many directions.
Trump asked real estate investor Steve Witkoff to negotiate the Hamas-Israel deal, angering some hawks. And Witkoff wants a peace deal with Iran. Witkoff is practical, not ideological.
People who push for peace are demonized. Both Carlson and Miller agree the U.S. has been corroded by lies (about wars).
Netanyahu’s hawks fear Trump’s stated opposition to endless war.
Israel will probably invade either Gaza and/or the West Bank, to annex territory (killing or expelling the residents). Or they’ll attack Iran. The U.S. is underwriting all this.
They say Hegseth has transformed and is appointing antiwar people now. [I think Hegseth will do great damage to the Pentagon — a not entirely bad thing.]
Carlson says he regrets having supported the Iraq war.
Iranian proxies killed American soldiers in Iraq, but we shouldn’t have been there. Iranian proxies have killed zero Americans on U.S. soil. But fentanyl from China killed millions of Americans. (Tucker may kinda want war with China, methinks.) There’s been no case made to the public about war with Iran. At least with Iraq the government made a dishonest case for war. For Iran, it’s just assumed you’re anti-American if you don’t hate Iran.
Mills says that the biggest risk for Dem administrations is war with Russia. The biggest risk with GOP administrations is war with Iran. The latter is better, since Iran doesn’t have nukes yet. lol. But even an Iran war would be bad. The pro-war hardliners keep moving the Overton window in their direction.
Carlson and Mills ask: Can the U.S. afford wars in Ukraine, Iran, and China, and domestic needs, given the debt?
Carlson says he wants no country to have the bomb, but if it’s a crisis that the Islamic Crisis of Pakistan has the bomb (given Pakistan’s harboring of Osama bin Laden. etc), why is it so horrible if Iran gets the bomb?
Mills thinks Trump should do a Trump Iran Deal that is better than the JCPOA.
Trump could get a Nobel Prize.
Carlson criticizes hawks who howl at anyone who wants to negotiate with our enemies.
Carlson criticizes the Fox News security reporter Jennifer Griffin basically works for the Pentagon. Miller agrees that’s common.
Miller considers the possibility that Trumpism is a cult, and once Trump is gone, the GOP will return to its old hawkish, open borders policy. Carlson says that devotion to Trump does have a religious quality to it.
Carlson says any critic of the Ukraine war is called a Putin puppet.
Lots of Trump administration people are in real estate and have investments in Qatar and other Middle Eastern countries.
Outsider Trump got elected because mainstream politics failed.
We can’t solve the border if we do a Middle East war, says Miller. Carlson agrees.
Carlson says the Europeans are hell-bent on suicide (because of their desire to fight the war in Ukraine). He thinks there’s a “supernatural” element in that! Why are the Germans putting up with destroying their economy with debate?
Trump withdrew hawk Mike Pompeo’s security protection. And Trump denounced Brian Hook and withdrew his security detail too; Hook is Pompeo’s aid. John Bolton too.
Carlson says we want peace with strength — we’re not wusses — but we don’t want unnecessary wars. Trump gets this. Why then did Trump hire Bolton? Because he’s a war-mongering lunatic who watches war porn at night. So, Bolton is the bad cop and Trump can be the good cop who negotiates peace.
Trump invited the Taliban for dinner at Camp David (lol), thus alienating Bolton.
Hawkish people are gonna try hard to stop moves towards peace.
Mill says young people are antiwar. Young Republican people are even more antiwar than young Democrats, perhaps, Mills says.
Carlson says, let’s be honest about it, the backbone/foot soldiers for these wars are evangelicals. But war is unbiblical. But many preachers support wars. “If your political agenda is violence, that’s prohibited” [in the New Testament]. The war lobby used these evangelicals.
It’s sad that the GOP is now more antiwar than the Dems.
